Comments on: Gang of Sickos: Six US Senators Sell Out Constituents for $11 Million from Health Industry http://www.healthcare-now.org/gang-of-sickos-six-us-senators-sell-out-constituents-for-11-million-from-health-industry/ Organizing for a national, single-payer healthcare system. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:00:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Someone who cares http://www.healthcare-now.org/gang-of-sickos-six-us-senators-sell-out-constituents-for-11-million-from-health-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-4909 Someone who cares Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:56:15 +0000 http://www.healthcare-now.org/?p=2409#comment-4909 This guy cracks me up and makes me so upset and angry at the same time. I don't know what to do anymore. The media has ruined this guys mind :( I'm surprised he even reads because it sounds like exact recording of the bull crap propaganda that is fed to him. A top insurance executive was recently caught saying something like "It's amazing what we have done. This is like getting starving people to say they don't want food". Wake up bro, insurance companies are raping it's "customers", if you can even call them that. This guy cracks me up and makes me so upset and angry at the same time. I don’t know what to do anymore. The media has ruined this guys mind :( I’m surprised he even reads because it sounds like exact recording of the bull crap propaganda that is fed to him. A top insurance executive was recently caught saying something like “It’s amazing what we have done. This is like getting starving people to say they don’t want food”. Wake up bro, insurance companies are raping it’s “customers”, if you can even call them that.

]]> By: Billy http://www.healthcare-now.org/gang-of-sickos-six-us-senators-sell-out-constituents-for-11-million-from-health-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-4101 Billy Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:27:31 +0000 http://www.healthcare-now.org/?p=2409#comment-4101 This isnt about the poor. They have medicaid already. This is about the "Dumb" people that have jobs and health insurance but are FORCED to buy it or stay at their job because they have no other choices.Most of the people that get their insurance subsidized by the government from their employee's don't really see how much is being spent on their plan.So its cool to subsidize your health care thru your work but everyone else can just go shove it because your not "Dumb" right? This isnt about the poor. They have medicaid already. This is about the “Dumb” people that have jobs and health insurance but are FORCED to buy it or stay at their job because they have no other choices.Most of the people that get their insurance subsidized by the government from their employee’s don’t really see how much is being spent on their plan.So its cool to subsidize your health care thru your work but everyone else can just go shove it because your not “Dumb” right?

]]> By: Billy http://www.healthcare-now.org/gang-of-sickos-six-us-senators-sell-out-constituents-for-11-million-from-health-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-4100 Billy Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:24:16 +0000 http://www.healthcare-now.org/?p=2409#comment-4100 How can you really say only insurance companies can lower costs by negotiation of prices where year in and year out they try to pay to pass laws making it illegal? MediGap D did just that. How can you really say only insurance companies can lower costs by negotiation of prices where year in and year out they try to pay to pass laws making it illegal? MediGap D did just that.

]]> By: Ben http://www.healthcare-now.org/gang-of-sickos-six-us-senators-sell-out-constituents-for-11-million-from-health-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-4099 Ben Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:19:19 +0000 http://www.healthcare-now.org/?p=2409#comment-4099 FYI you already pay for illegal immigrants health care. The ideal that a large chunk of uninsured are young healthy people who just don't want it is a crock of crap. Most people who don't have it, more then likely cant afford it. Why do i say that? Because a large chunk of the insured are severely under insured and overpriced. Those same people even with a great plan that their boss pays for are still one accident away from coming to these boards voting for a public option. If you think the private health care industry is doing a great job you need to pull your head out of the sand because your wallet is missing. FYI you already pay for illegal immigrants health care. The ideal that a large chunk of uninsured are young healthy people who just don’t want it is a crock of crap. Most people who don’t have it, more then likely cant afford it. Why do i say that? Because a large chunk of the insured are severely under insured and overpriced. Those same people even with a great plan that their boss pays for are still one accident away from coming to these boards voting for a public option.

If you think the private health care industry is doing a great job you need to pull your head out of the sand because your wallet is missing.

]]> By: Ben http://www.healthcare-now.org/gang-of-sickos-six-us-senators-sell-out-constituents-for-11-million-from-health-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-4098 Ben Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:16:00 +0000 http://www.healthcare-now.org/?p=2409#comment-4098 Im starting to think many blue dogs are just that, republicans pretending to be dems. Im starting to think many blue dogs are just that, republicans pretending to be dems.

]]> By: Ben http://www.healthcare-now.org/gang-of-sickos-six-us-senators-sell-out-constituents-for-11-million-from-health-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-4097 Ben Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:14:18 +0000 http://www.healthcare-now.org/?p=2409#comment-4097 Stop making sense, you will start scaring the anti reform people. Stop making sense, you will start scaring the anti reform people.

]]> By: corners http://www.healthcare-now.org/gang-of-sickos-six-us-senators-sell-out-constituents-for-11-million-from-health-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-4096 corners Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:10:17 +0000 http://www.healthcare-now.org/?p=2409#comment-4096 They would also be all gung-ho about sending jobs overseas.How bout lowering capital gains,there's a free check/tax break. Maybe the "Bankrupt the Consumer Act"? MediGap D did so well for big PHRMA.GOP love to spout off of how it came in under predictions but they never tell everyone that many on Medicaid were switched to medicare where they ended up paying more for the same drugs. It also made it illegal for medicare to bargain for lower drug prices. Capitalism at its best. Oh, you mean that's not capitalism? Capitalism is fine for congress until it effects their donors and bottom line. Does it make any sense to anyone that the party of free markets is defending the biggest case of non free markets ever? Between decade + long patents on drugs, no negotiating from parties with bigger buying power and the health insurance industry where in over 40 states only 2 companies control over 50% of the market in every one of those states. Many have market shares if 75% 85% and even 98% in one state. Nice free market.....my ass. Im all for free markets with rules, but this is nothing short of a robbery of the American public by our congress and their buyers. They would also be all gung-ho about sending jobs overseas.How bout lowering capital gains,there’s a free check/tax break.

Maybe the “Bankrupt the Consumer Act”?

MediGap D did so well for big PHRMA.GOP love to spout off of how it came in under predictions but they never tell everyone that many on Medicaid were switched to medicare where they ended up paying more for the same drugs. It also made it illegal for medicare to bargain for lower drug prices. Capitalism at its best. Oh, you mean that’s not capitalism? Capitalism is fine for congress until it effects their donors and bottom line.

Does it make any sense to anyone that the party of free markets is defending the biggest case of non free markets ever? Between decade + long patents on drugs, no negotiating from parties with bigger buying power and the health insurance industry where in over 40 states only 2 companies control over 50% of the market in every one of those states. Many have market shares if 75% 85% and even 98% in one state. Nice free market…..my ass. Im all for free markets with rules, but this is nothing short of a robbery of the American public by our congress and their buyers.

]]> By: billy http://www.healthcare-now.org/gang-of-sickos-six-us-senators-sell-out-constituents-for-11-million-from-health-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-4095 billy Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:00:20 +0000 http://www.healthcare-now.org/?p=2409#comment-4095 What good is a Health care system only the rich can afford?For every 1 story you hear of rationing in other countries you can find 50 in the states. Having the best health care system in the world is only good for those that have access to it. The emergency room isn't access,and what of those people after they leave the emergency room? This isn't about the uninsured. This is about the middle class now getting hammered by the industry while our congress makes it law and legal for them to do it. All while taking in millions to get reelected. We already don't have choices, we already have rationing and yes you already pay for all those illegals you are so worked about( as am i) Do you have anything better to say then rationing and lack of competition? What good is a health system that ties it all to your job? Then you lose your job from many different ways including injury, then what?Please dont say cobra. People like yourself don't get it till it happens to you. What good is a Health care system only the rich can afford?For every 1 story you hear of rationing in other countries you can find 50 in the states. Having the best health care system in the world is only good for those that have access to it. The emergency room isn’t access,and what of those people after they leave the emergency room? This isn’t about the uninsured. This is about the middle class now getting hammered by the industry while our congress makes it law and legal for them to do it. All while taking in millions to get reelected.

We already don’t have choices, we already have rationing and yes you already pay for all those illegals you are so worked about( as am i)

Do you have anything better to say then rationing and lack of competition?

What good is a health system that ties it all to your job? Then you lose your job from many different ways including injury, then what?Please dont say cobra. People like yourself don’t get it till it happens to you.

]]> By: Zeppelin http://www.healthcare-now.org/gang-of-sickos-six-us-senators-sell-out-constituents-for-11-million-from-health-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-4020 Zeppelin Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:32:56 +0000 http://www.healthcare-now.org/?p=2409#comment-4020 I don't want to share My Doctor with More People who are too dumb to get a Good Paying Job, with Good Health Insurance. That is what is Wrong with America, Failure is becoming a REWARD! If you think I Should Pay for these Illiterates, I think you are just one of those Lame Fence Jumpers, down in California or Arizona. Obama just wants to Kiss all of the Illegals Butts, so he can then offer them Amnesty, so the Liberals will have a Continuous Flow of Hispanic Voters. He should MOVE to Mexico and FIX Their Country. I don’t want to share My Doctor with More People who are too dumb to get a Good Paying Job, with Good Health Insurance.

That is what is Wrong with America, Failure is becoming a REWARD!

If you think I Should Pay for these Illiterates, I think you are just one of those Lame Fence Jumpers, down in California or Arizona.

Obama just wants to Kiss all of the Illegals Butts, so he can then offer them Amnesty, so the Liberals will have a Continuous Flow of Hispanic Voters.

He should MOVE to Mexico and FIX Their Country.

]]> By: Helmie http://www.healthcare-now.org/gang-of-sickos-six-us-senators-sell-out-constituents-for-11-million-from-health-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-4018 Helmie Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:01:40 +0000 http://www.healthcare-now.org/?p=2409#comment-4018 United Health Care just reported record profits. I lost my job the end of last year, and went on my husband's employer provided plan with UHC. They increased our part of the monthly premium from $830 to $1,100 a month last April (family plan is now $1,700 a month). My husband was not given a choice, it's UHC or no insurance. I hate to brake your heart, all you skeptics out there, but we are already paying for all the uninsured, and underinsured. We are also paying for the million $$$ salaries and bonuses the health insurance execs get paid. We are also paying for the $1.4 mill a day the health care industry spends to fight health care reform. "Lewin Group" an "independent, non-partisan" Think Tank, according to Republican members of Congress, states that a public option would not work. It turns out the Lewin Group is owned by United Health Care. I don't know how long my husband and I are able to pay these high health insurance premiums, they represent about 14% of our gross income, and we're not even counting the co-pays for office visits, and the prescription drugs. I lived in Germany for the first 36 years of my live. I can assure you, I never had to worry about the cost of health care, I never had to wait in lines, or had to wait longer than a week to get a doctors appointment. Here, if I want an appointment to see my Gynecologist, I usually have to wait about 6 weeks to 2 months. Here, 62% of all bankruptcies are due to medical bills. In Germany there are none. If you work in Germany, you get about 7% deducted from your paycheck for health and disability insurance. You employer also pays 7%. However, there is a maximum amount, and you can't be charged more, no matter how much you earn. If you are unemployed, the government pays the employer part, and you pay the 7% out of your unemployment compensation. If you make over a certain amount of money (the ceeling is not very high), you can opt out of the public insurance plan and select a private health insurance plan. The public plan always includes all your dependens, while the private health insurance options only insure one person at a time (good option, if you are single). We here in the US do not have the best health care system in the world, we rank about 37th or so. So, all you skeptics, start waking up. Health insurance companies are in business to make money, and show huge profits, so their stock prices go up. United Health Care just reported record profits. I lost my job the end of last year, and went on my husband’s employer provided plan with UHC. They increased our part of the monthly premium from $830 to $1,100 a month last April (family plan is now $1,700 a month). My husband was not given a choice, it’s UHC or no insurance. I hate to brake your heart, all you skeptics out there, but we are already paying for all the uninsured, and underinsured. We are also paying for the million $$$ salaries and bonuses the health insurance execs get paid. We are also paying for the $1.4 mill a day the health care industry spends to fight health care reform. “Lewin Group” an “independent, non-partisan” Think Tank, according to Republican members of Congress, states that a public option would not work. It turns out the Lewin Group is owned by United Health Care.
I don’t know how long my husband and I are able to pay these high health insurance premiums, they represent about 14% of our gross income, and we’re not even counting the co-pays for office visits, and the prescription drugs.
I lived in Germany for the first 36 years of my live. I can assure you, I never had to worry about the cost of health care, I never had to wait in lines, or had to wait longer than a week to get a doctors appointment. Here, if I want an appointment to see my Gynecologist, I usually have to wait about 6 weeks to 2 months. Here, 62% of all bankruptcies are due to medical bills. In Germany there are none. If you work in Germany, you get about 7% deducted from your paycheck for health and disability insurance. You employer also pays 7%. However, there is a maximum amount, and you can’t be charged more, no matter how much you earn. If you are unemployed, the government pays the employer part, and you pay the 7% out of your unemployment compensation. If you make over a certain amount of money (the ceeling is not very high), you can opt out of the public insurance plan and select a private health insurance plan. The public plan always includes all your dependens, while the private health insurance options only insure one person at a time (good option, if you are single). We here in the US do not have the best health care system in the world, we rank about 37th or so. So, all you skeptics, start waking up. Health insurance companies are in business to make money, and show huge profits, so their stock prices go up.

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